A special focus on the Tribulation Saints of the Sixth Seal and how it eventually lead me to the understanding of all the harvests. This topic has been the most challenging to articulate.

The verses: https://ref.ly/Re7.9-17

The sixth seal rapture timing viewpoint seemed to be the most neglected viewpoint for believers looking to prove just one harvest event, as I used to. It was the obvious conclusion to come to when studying the New Testament in the most basic and direct way, taking it at face value in order not to miss whatever might be straight forward. I took that approach because I needed to extract myself from all the opinions that were opposing each other and surrounding me on every side. What came to really stand out to me was how so many Bible teachers were ignoring the uncountable multitude of saints that St Paul saw standing in God’s throne room at the end of the sixth seal.

_⁹After these things I looked, and this is what I saw: a vast multitude which no one could count, [gathered] from every nation and from all the tribes and peoples and languages [of the earth], standing before the throne and before the Lamb (Christ), dressed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands; _¹⁰and in a loud voice they cried out, saying, “Salvation [belongs] to our God who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” _¹¹And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the _{^{[twenty-four]}} elders and the four living creatures; and they fell to their faces before the throne and worshiped God, _¹²saying, Amen! Blessing and glory and majesty and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might belong to our God forever and ever. Amen. _¹³Then one of the elders responded, saying to me, “These who are dressed in the long white robes—who are they, and from where did they come?” _¹⁴ I said to him, “My lord, you know the answer.” And he said to me, “These are the people who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” _{^{[because of His atoning sacrifice]. 15}}For this reason, they are _^[standing] before the throne of God; and they serve Him _{^{[in worship]}} day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them and shelter and protect them _{^{[with His presence]}}. _¹⁶They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any _^[scorching] heat; _¹⁷for the Lamb who is in the center of the throne will be their Shepherd, and He will guide them to springs of the waters of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes.”

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The Three Harvests

With time and closer inspection, I discovered that the sixth seal harvest, although by far the largest harvest of the body of Christ, is not the only harvest. I saw that my sixth seal harvest perspective was flawed; And although its ‘flaw’ seemed to be remedied in part by leaning preferentially on St. Paul’s teachings, I actually had to embrace the full complexity of the New Testament, piece by piece, to resolve all the issues. Only then did I come to understand that the core of the disagreements among Pastors, Bible teachers, scholars, saints and scholars came from the fact that the vast majority of them hold to the conviction that there’s only one harvest of saints.

But before I knew all that, and while my initial studies were still clearly pointing me to the sixth seal as the harvest of all of God’s new covenant saints, I began making basic preparations in order to survive the great tribulation of the 4th seal. _{^{(not God’s wrath which is the greatest tribulation that starts at the 7th seal)}} My preps were partly spiritual and partly physical, such as learning how to fish and garden. I stocked up on coffee, water, medicine and extra resources to help others, especially Christians, to make it through what I deduced would be about a year long trial.

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Then things changed – a personal note – preparing a ‘time capsule’ for the left behind:

After further study and prayer, I realized there’s also an earlier harvest for the bride of Christ, which most likely includes the bridesmaids. _{^{(See posts 1 and 18)}} I’ve been glad that some of the preps I’d made might become useful for those who’ll be left behind (hopefully to soon become tribulation saints); So I continued prepping somethings for them. But for myself, I came to focus on insuring that I am truly betrothed to Jesus Christ through obedience, abiding in Him and His word. Also of course, hearing His voice, bearing fruit for Him and doing the works He made for me, in order that I may be clothed with them for eternity.

Soon I discovered other watchers who were making kits for the left behind and I sort of joined them; I started to consider AlephTav.blog to be in part a service to the left behind, yet it’s also good to divert believers from getting left behind, for understanding the signs of the end-times and for resolving prophesies. I think we should all try to seek out individuals to whom the Lord might want us to leave other things, survival things; but truth is of the highest priority; “Man can not live by bread alone but on every word that comes out of the Mouth of God”_{^{(Matt. 4:4)}}. Daniel 7:25 informs us that the Beast is going to try to eliminate Biblical calendrical knowledge by changing the ‘times and laws’ probably by rewriting Bibles. AI has already been adulterating online Bibles and a very wealthy Muslim family just purchased one of the largest Christian book companies. Woe to those who can’t tell the difference! The Bible warns about a ‘dessert of the WORD.’

So the early harvest for the bride and probably the bridesmaids that I came to focus on is: Jesus Christ’s Open Door for His Church of Philadelphia; I’ve been praying to be invited through His open door. He Himself is The DOOR .

I _^Jesus am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.” John 10:9-11

Eventually this understanding completely took over for me. Although it wasn’t possible until I fully understood that the mistranslations of 2 Thessalonians 2 had deceived me into thinking that the bride/true church wouldn’t be redeemed until after the Antichrist sits in the holy place. See post:

7. Thessalonians Misstated

https://alephtav.blog/7-twisted/

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But this post is not about the the harvest of Christ’s bride,

its about the harvest of the tribulation saints.

Situating the Sixth Seal Harvest:

… in the context of the fourth, fifth and the beginning of the sixth seal …

A quarter of humanity perishes at the fourth seal; The fifth seal show martyrs under God our Holy Father’s alter crying out for justice . . .

Next, 144,000 Israelites are Sealed by Angels

with the Name of

God the Holy Father and the Holy Son

written on Their Foreheads.

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Only after that are the Tribulation Saints seen in Heaven

As the harvest of the trib. saints is separate from the harvest of the bride, _{^{(discussed above but proofs are on other posts),}} the harvest of the trib. saints is also separate from the harvest of the Jews .

When comparing parallel passages in the synoptic gospels _{^{(Matthew, Mark and Luke)}} to the very similar words in the Book of Revelation at the conclusion of the sixth seal, it was once mind boggling to me that I’d rarely heard the possibility of ‘a sixth seal harvest’ mentioned by Bible teachers, preachers or commentators. The idea itself wasn’t even broached, not even for the purpose of pointing out how similar its verses seems to the ones in the Olivet Harvest _{^{see below}}! Perhaps they’re afraid of the topic. It can’t be that they understand so clearly that they’re separate harvests to the point where they feel ‘far above’ even being interested in the topic, or that they just didn’t want to confuse people by bringing up the similarities for concern that it might make believers conflate the two harvests; Those can’t be the case since I’m talking about ‘the majority’ who are of the absolute conviction that there is only one harvest! _{^{as mentioned above}}

How Exactly Do Revelation’s Sixth Seal Verses Line up with the Olivet Discourse?

Here are the links if that’s hard to read: https://ref.ly/Re6, https://ref.ly/Mt24, https://ref.ly/Lk21 & https://ref.ly/Mk13

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Although the cosmic signs do seem to line up amazingly, there are actually 4 other very impressive earthquakes and many similar cosmic events in the sun, moon and stars, occurring in God’s final ~4.5 years before His Millennial Kingdom begins; Each time dramatic signs and events occur, they’ll frighten people. _{^{(But it’s worth noting that ‘frightening the people’ isn’t mentioned in Matt. 24 and Mark 13.)}} And since we’re teasing out every detail . . . The ‘redemption of the tribulation saints’ isn’t mentioned in Rev. 6. The Tribulation Saints are only seen as having arrived safely in God’s throne room, immediately after the sealing of the 144,000 (Rev. 7); If the Olivet Discourse were the same harvest, wouldn’t the 144,000 pure, virgin, obedient Israelite brothers of Christ sealed to remain on Earth safely have been mentioned by Jesus? Those are the 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Jacob/Israel! Think about it; The Olivet Discourse was given by Jesus Christ the Jewish Messiah while sitting on the Mount of Olives with His select Jewish apostles, while they were looking down upon Jerusalem and the 2nd temple; Jesus indirectly gave them instruction for their future Jewish brethren, exact instructions about how they must flee Jerusalem when they see the end of time abomination of desolation being setup on the wing of the 3rd temple!

Here’s another divergence between the two harvests. It’s between the descriptive phrases ‘the heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up’ _{^{Rev. 6}} vs ‘heavenly bodies will be shaken _{^{The Gospels.}} Only the Rev. 6:14 verse implies an actual displacement of Earth’s axis and/or orbit that will move every mountain and island from its place.

Although there are three ‘synoptic’ gospels, there was only one Olivet Discourse in which Jesus Christ revealed what’s to come for the Jews at the end of this age.

But the synoptic gospels have been recorded from three different vantage points and that’s not the same as three different witnesses from three separate prophesies. Now many modern Bible expositors hold the belief that Matthew Mark and Luke each hint at a different harvest: Matthew to the Jews, Mark to the tribulation saints and Luke to the bride of Christ. And although the individual points they make to defend their hypotheses sound intriguing, I’m unconvinced. Therefore, on this post, I’m sticking with the unmistakable things that apply only to the final harvest, the grape harvest of the Jews.

The Revelation 6: 12-17 verses dazzled me . . .

. . . so much at first, that they kind of blinded me when the frightened people say, “Hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of Their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” Since I was a bit dazzled, I fully equated that with the Olivet Discourse harvest which says, . . . “when you see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with power and great glory.” But . . .

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Here’s the first thing I overlooked:

Revelation’s Sixth Seal and the Olivet Discourse can’t be referring to the same harvest because the Olivet Discourse clearly describes the Son of Man coming to harvest the Jews after the greatEST tribulation on Earth, (although God will provide a 1260 refuge for them after they flee) while Rev. 6:17 only says “the great day of their wrath has arrived,” which was announced right after the one who sits on the throne became visible to the people on Earth – showing that His wrath was just about to begin! And then very soon after that brief introduction to wrath, the tribulation saints were seen in heaven having escaped it.

These are the verses from the synoptic Gospels:

Olivet Discourse – Matt. 24:21,  “For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.” _{^{(Only after this, in verse 29, signs in the cosmos were mentioned.)}}

Olivet Discourse – Mark 13: 19-20, “ because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again.  If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them.” _{^{(Only after the Jews see the A.O.D. and flee, signs in the cosmos are mentioned in verse 24.)}}

Olivet Discourse – Luke 21:22, “For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.” ^{_{(Only in verse 25 are signs in the cosmos mentioned and with the ‘tossing of the sea’ added.)}}

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There’s even more proof below, that the Sixth Seal and the Olivet Discourse Harvests are different, but first one more proof here:

No throne of God the Father appearing in the heavenlies to everybody on Earth was mentioned the Olivet Discourse accounts. So what could be more impressive than God Almighty’s throne appearing to all humanity from the heavens above? And what could be more unlikely than Jesus Christ not mentioning His Fathers’ very first appearance to all the people on Earth, in His longest and most detailed prophetic discourse?

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The Sixth Seal and the Olivet Discourse harvests are clearly not the same!

The rest of the explanations of why the Sixth Seal and Olivet Harvest are different are given below at marks: 2.15, 2.20, 2.26 and 2.28.

_{^{If scribes or Bible translators or their institutions held to the belief that the Olivet and the Sixth Seal harvests were the same, they would’ve been more likely use words to translated with that made the verses seem to be a bit more closely aligned than they otherwise would have.}}

I tried to cover the 5th seal martyrs and martyrs in general here,

But it turned out to be too lengthy to keep and too important to ignore, so it’s here:

The Gleanings are the Martyrs

https://alephtav.blog/the-gleanings-are-the-martyrs/

Three Harvests, each with three parts

The First Fruits of the Barley Harvest could also be the captives Jesus removed from the ‘Bosom of Abraham’ in Hades when “He took captivity captive.” Also, my interpretation of the two grape harvests of Rev. 14, is that only the second one is the grapes of wrath.

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Back to: Why the Rev. Sixth Seal Harvest isn’t the Olivet Discourse Harvest:

The great multitude of Tribulation Saints:

After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.

Revelation 7:9

So Important!: The Olivet Harvest is unlike the Barley Harvest (His bride) and Wheat Harvest (tribulation saints) in that it’s not for every nation, tribe, people and language. The Olivet Harvest is the harvest that’s overwhelmingly for the Jews. There’s a complete proof study here . . .

Watch for Jesus Christ:

https://alephtav.blog/watchjesus/

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Now finishing up this post with something related but a bit different . . .

Increased Biblical knowledge leads us to let go of a few cherished simpler explanations.

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This viewpoint fits best when the Book of Revelation is understood to be well ordered and chronological.

I see the Book of Revelation as an exceptionally orderly book in the sense that, when zooming out, it’s chronological, despite the fact that it contains one huge parenthetical section with symbolism that reaches back in time to the three ascensions of the body of Christ: First Christ’s own resurrected body ascended; Next, about 1,996 years later, His bride (and possibly His bridesmaids) ascended; And not long after that, His tribulation saints ascended. All those make up ‘the body of Christ’ who’ll rule Earth by Christ’ side with an iron rod. I used the past tense since the parenthetical Revelation 12 sign passages are a figurative summary only shown to St Paul after the Lord had already shown him many chronological future end times events, and that Christ’s bride and tribulation had already been taken off the earth before the parenthetical section. Together all true Christians are ‘the body of Christ and share in the unimaginably generous inheritance that God our Father has given His Son Jesus Christ. So why does the Revelation 12 sign start by showing the Body of Christ coming out of the woman ‘Hebrew-Israel’? It’s because that sets the stage for us to focus on the final crop of saints, the main part of the grape harvest of the Jews! The woman ‘Hebrew-Israel’ then immediately flees satan, who’s represented by the dragon in Revelation 12. Satan first tried to destroy Christ and then the body of Christ but was unsuccessful because both His body was caught up to heaven. Then Satan turns against the woman who runs to a safe place in the wilderness that God has prepared for her.

8/30/26 Update: 9 years, representing 9 months of gestation have passed since the very famous 2017 Revelation 12 sign appeared in the heavens. We believe that water broke on August 29 when the blood moon was in Aquarius. (“came by water and blood.” John 1 5-6) It’s time for Christ’s bride to be lifted up, likely on Sept. 11 ’26; I think His tribulation saints will follow within a year.

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Also backward overlaps are common to storytelling: To tell a complex story people must consistently ‘go back’ and ‘pick up threads’ that were left off since it’s impossible to forward relate everything at the same time.

Diverging to the harvest of Christ’s bride and how it sets off the great tribulation and the harvest of His Tribulation Saints.

Understanding the timing: How the Open Door Harvest aligns with the climactic moment when the Lamb of God, the only worthy one in the universe to receive the scroll of the Deed to Earth from the hand of Holy Father Almighty, requires flexibility on our part. For example, if Christ’s tarry began before and continued on for awhile after what I call the Midnight Cry Event, which was the day He broke the first seal of the scroll, about 6 months before ‘the beginning of the end of the church age’ on April 9 ’24 _{^{AD see post 3,}} his bride might wonder what she should be doing now, while persevering through the final wait. I believe the bridesmaids are persevering too, those who have enough oil. Wouldn’t Jesus Christ want His bride to be working in order to edify and ready the bridesmaids, martyrs and tribulation saints for their respective roles? After all the role of the wife has always been to be the beloved helpmate of her husband. If the betrothal is modeled on ancient Jewish tradition, there’s a waiting period after the betrothal while the groom builds her a house; But I think there’s also another waiting period for the bride of Christ after the midnight cry. Symbolically that’s the time in His parable of the 10 virgins when the 5 unwise virgins went out buy more oil for their lamps, which were going out. Now His betrothed saints are not the very same as the wise virgins, but its all about entry to His marriage supper event in heaven. Since all 10 virgins fell asleep while waiting for the midnight cry, the thing that differentiated the bride might be that she never fell asleep _{^{(slipped back into living for the world).}} His bride’s been watching carefully for awhile now, and it seems that she’s being shown the glory of the meanings of the wait itself as well as of the stepping stones that have been marking the times of the wait, and why it’s magnificent, glorifying Jesus Christ even more!

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Many believers have been taught that Christ’s bride must be physically present in God’s throne room, before God our Father presents the Lamb of God with the scroll of the Deed to Earth. That’s why so many Christians think the 24 elders are the bride. Huh? The 24 elders can not be the bride, as the 24 elders sang a song to praise the Lamb of God for redeeming ‘them’ with His blood. Who do the 24 elders mean by the word ‘them’?

There are 7 very conspicuous blazing torches in God’s throne room in front of His throne, which were noted by St John in the 5th verse after the evaluation Jesus Christ gave regarding to the 7th ‘lamp stand’ the final church! After that, St. John saw the open door to heaven; In the next verse he saw a throne _{^{(in the center of which the Lamb who was slain will soon appear)}}; In the third verse he described someone awesome on the throne and in the forth verse he saw the 24 elders surrounding the one on the throne. Then he saw the blazing torches or lamp stands. After that he saw a sea of glass followed by the four living creatures in the center around the throne. Next Father God holds out a sealed scroll with His right hand, but nobody in the universe is worthy to break it’s seals. St John cries and cries until one of the elders says:

Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals. Rev. 5:5

Then the Lamb who was slain appears at the center of the throne surrounded by the 4 creatures and 24 elders worshiping Him. He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne!

About the blazing lamp stands in front of God’s throne, does anybody think God needs firelight in order to see? Revelation specifically states that there will be no need for the sun and the moon on the New Earth; Although they’ll still exist, they’ll be ‘put to shame’ by the most holy light of Father God and Jesus Christ themselves. So lets consider the 7 blazing lamp stands/torches in the throne room of God, which St. John saw just two verses after he saw God sitting on the throne. . .

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The song that the 24 ‘elders’ sang, referred to ‘them,’ as those who were redeemed by Christ’s blood. . . How are ‘they’ represented in God’s throne room?

The following is the Greek word for ‘they.’ Almost every translation gets it right but both King James versions got it wrong by translating ‘it’ as ‘us’ when it literally means ‘not us’!

them {into}
αὐτοὺς (autous)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun – Accusative Masculine 3rd Person Plural
Strong’s 846: He, she, it, they, them, same. From the particle au; the reflexive pronoun self, used of the third person, and of the other persons.

Here’s one good study on it, that lists the ancient manuscripts by their exact reference numbers: Which translation for Revelation 5:10 is correct? _{^{https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/35808/which-translation-for-revelation-510-is-correct}}

How is Christ’s bride represented in God’s throne room until she arrives there in her glorified bodies? It’s the lamp stands of course! They’re presence represents the condition of Christ’s bride, while she remains on Earth, like a measuring device in which the flames constantly indicate her role in being the light of the earth, which is only possible when she allows the the Holy Spirit to work through her.

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The precedent was the Menorah. It Served Practically the Same Purpose in God’s Old Covenant Temple.

This is recorded in the Talmud . . .

. . . that from the time of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the menorah constantly blew out for 40yrs. until the temple was destroyed. The earthly temple was a reflection of God’s heavenly temple; They’re linked and that means there was also a seven branched menorah in God’s throne room reflecting what the Old Covenant temple priests were doing on Earth.

While in God’s throne room, St. John saw the seven fold spirit represented by 7 blazing torches before God’s throne _{^{(also reflecting the New Covenant betrothal).}} He wrote about it just verses after he’d seen Jesus walk among 7 lamp stands in his vision on the Island of Patmos. Then immediately he went up though the ‘Open Door’ to God’s Throne Room. St. John would have seen the bride of Christ standing there if she were actually present when the 24 elders burst into their famous song about Christ having redeemed ‘them’ _{^{(His bride and possibly His bridesmaids)}} with His blood._^. After all, St. John later saw the uncountable number of Tribulation Saints in bodily form, standing in Gods throne room, wearing long white robes, singing songs of praise and waving palm branches in Rev. 7: 9-17.

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The very act of witnessing the blazes of the 7 lamp stands before God’s throne, as they simultaneously reached their radiant fullness must have been the indicator that Christ’s bride’s has made herself ready meaning it’s time for Jesus Christ, the Worthy One, to begin breaking the seals of the scroll; That’s what caused the 24 elders to burst into their most special song of praise!

7 Full Blazes . . .

. . . must mean that every one of the 7 church types will have Holy Spirit anointed members who are not grieving the Holy Spirit, even at the end of this age; They’ll be alive and actively burning forth the light of truth into this, dark world for the Lord! Those are the saints who’ll be consuming Him, THE WORD, and shining it forth. I think that’s what convinces Father God to hand the scroll to Jesus. I’m not saying that God wouldn’t have known about it without the lamp stands and the flames as the indicator. He’s all-knowing; I’m saying that the lamp stands/torches are also placed there for His pleasure and to show what’s important to Him. The lamp stands/torches also serve to continuously demonstrate to the all intelligent inhabitants of the third heaven, the state of the Christ’s bride at a single glance. There can’t be a Kingdom with only a King and a planet. A King requires subjects; When Jesus has His first, closest and most passionate large group of tested loyal subjects, His bride and bridesmaids, His Kingdom is ready to move forward! The scroll is the Deed to Earth, and the time for Him to begin breaking the seals will have arrived and so He will bring back the foundation (eden)! We can celebrate that now because it’s happening right now! We will miss that opportunity if we believe we must wait until we arrive in God’s throne room. ^{_{(In my opinion)}}

24 Elders & Overflow from this post:

https://alephtav.blog/24-elders/

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3. The Midnight Cry Event

https://alephtav.blog/3-the-cry/

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