O Wonder Beyond Wonders,
Righteousness, Power, Amazement!

Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war.

Revelation 19:11

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Mighty to Save!

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Jesus will never let go of our hand.

1 John 4: 9-10, “This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.”

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Protoevangelicum

Genesis 3:15 “And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

Jesus Christ is the Name Above All Names.

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The Victory Belongs to Jesus Christ

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 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.  And having disarmed the powers and authorities (Satan and his fallen angels), he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

Colossians 2:13-15

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He Feels Our Pain

Jesus Christ is the Judge of All

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Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.”

Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.

Revelation 4:4-5

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Who are the 24 Elders in Our Holy Father’s Throne Room?

I think Jesus brought them to God our Father’s throne room as the first fruits offering of the Barley Harvest of Saints. They may’ve been the ones who had faith in the Son of God Yeshua Messiah before He even came to Earth, as they saw Him, as through a glass darkly.

“Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.” (John 8:56)

Only after examining every theory out there in great depth, did I come to that conclusion, but only after the Holy Spirit spoke to me once, when I was going down the wrong track.

Note: As far as I know, the 24 elders were never ‘seen’ in any of the Old Testament prophet’s visions, but God. YHWH mentioned them once to Isaiah (Isa. 24) in a vision of the far future, after the Millennium and before the new Universe, when Earth was torn apart completely. I don’t think God was necessarily indicating that the elders were already in His throne room before the time when Isaiah lived.

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The 24 Elders as the First Fruits of the Barley Harvest of Souls:

Of the two grape harvests of Rev. 14, I think only the second harvest is the grapes of wrath.

First Fruits of the Barley Harvest may be the people whose bodies rose from their graves after Jesus died on the cross, and later got up and walked into Jerusalem after Jesus Christ was resurrected. Those might’ve been the formerly captive souls that Jesus brought up from Sheol, who by the power of Jesus Christ, re-entered their bodies; They may have risen to heaven at the same time Christ did, meeting Him in the clouds. If so, Christ would’ve brought them to Father God as the First Fruits, of the Barley Harvest.

Because no one appears before God empty handed: Exodus 3:21, 23:15; Deut. 16:16.

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1 Corinthians 15:20-26 _^ESV

But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.

Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

Rev. 4:9-11

. . . the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:

“You are worthy, our Lord and God,
    to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
    and by your will they were created
    and have their being.”

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At times, God has considered certain men to be in His divine assembly.

For example, the ‘gods’ of Psalm 82; They aren’t the same as the 24 elders. The Psalm 82 ‘gods’ were unrighteous, the 24 elders, righteous.

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Psalm 82

God presides in the great assembly; He renders judgment among the ‘gods.’ “How long will you defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. “I said, ‘You are ‘gods’; you are all sons of the Most High. But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”

Jesus told us who the ‘gods’ of Psalm 82 really were:

Jesus answered them (the Pharisees), “Is it not written in your Law (Psalm 82) ‘I have said you are “gods”’?  If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside – what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?

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Isaiah 24:22-23

“In that day the Lord will punish the powers in the heavens above and the kings on the earth below. They will be herded together like prisoners bound in a dungeon; they will be shut up in prison and be punished after many days. The moon will be dismayed,
    the sun ashamed; for the Lord Almighty will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
    and before its elders—with great glory.”

Before I understood who the 24 elders really are, the best candidates were the ‘elect angels.’ I’ve left some remnants from the prior argument below because the study elements still glorify Jesus Christ!

From Moses’ song:

Deuteronomy 32: 8-9 “When the Most High apportioned the nations, when He divided humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the ‘gods’ (elohim); the LORD’s own portion was his people, Jacob his allotted share.” (The Septuagint translated elohim to angels.)

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Jesus Christ put all the Principalities to Shame:

Colossians 2:15

 And  having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

 

Colossians 2: 10-14, 15-17

And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ. ^.Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

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In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross. (Colossians 2:15 NLT)

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:  Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:16)

 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. “For God has put everything under His feet “Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15: 26-28)

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7 Blazing Torches in Front of God’s Throne.

This is a fascinating topic:

St. John saw the seven blazing torches and was told they’re the seven spirits of God. Is that description only focusing on the oil part, since oil represents the Holy Spirit in the Bible? Isn’t the living WORD Jesus Christ the actual light part? But wait . . . there’s no light on lamp stands unless their oil burns;

Let’s examine it:

It makes sense that together the lamp stands symbolize the entire church – all 7 types or models, as described in Rev. 2-3. At the time of St. John’s throne room vision, each lamp stand was in the blazing state that God desired. At that time they all will have sufficient holy spirit oil and will be lit with blazing flames being fanned; All 7 lamp stands will be and now are shining forth the light of truth into this dark world; The 7 lamp stands collectively must represent the completed, mature, true church that Jesus Christ died for, His bride and his bridesmaids. I think the fact that all 7 are lit also shows that she’s at least somewhat mature, although she remains on Earth. The blazes on the torches serve like a meter in God’s throne room; And at the time of St. John’s vision they’re indicating to all the living beings in God’s throne room that it’s time for the Lamb of God to take the scroll of the Deed to Earth from His Father’s hand, and get ready to break its first seal; Thus the 24 elders broke out into song, praising Jesus for purchasing ‘them’ while YHWH handed the scroll to His Son, the Worthy One, His Perfect Sacrificial Lamb.

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Jesus Christ had spoken something to St. John, just 8 verses prior to that, before St. John ‘looked’ and ‘saw’ the open door in heaven and heard a voice like a trumpet saying “COME UP HERE”:

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Here’s what Jesus Christ said:

“To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write”

These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut.

I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept My word and have not denied My name. I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. Since you have kept My command to endure patiently,

I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.

The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. (Rev. 3:1-13)

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The ‘open door’ concept was described twice in a row, first in Rev. 3:8 and then in Rev. 4:1.

The greater context: The Book of Revelation opens with St John’s vision of Jesus Christ walking among 7 lamp stands; He tells us what they are:

I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lamp stands, and among the lamp stands was someone like a son of man, dressed in . . . (It’s Jesus in His Glory.) ‘The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lamp stands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lamp stands are the seven churches. . .’ (Rev. 1:12-13, 20)

Then Jesus gives a ‘progress report’ to each church. And at the end of each progress report, seven times, He concludes with, “Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

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After that, St. John is transported to heaven and he sees this:

From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven torches were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God. (Rev. 4:5)

In St. John’s first vision on the island of Patmos, he didn’t mention whether or not the lamp stands that Jesus walked among were lit. The focus was on the churches. A church isn’t the flame, but the device that holds up the oil, and the flame, if it’s lit. It’s the responsibility of a church and it’s congregation to spark and fan the flame and to not quench the Holy Spirit.

I like this picture; but there’s no need for each of the seven lamp stands have more than one lamp.

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What sparks the flame and what fans the flames of the Holy Spirit to make a blaze?

Jesus seems to have said that it’s listening and hearing what the spirit says to the churches. How do we hear what He said? I think we better read Rev. 2-3!

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To Ephesus, Rev. 2:7, “Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.”

To Smyrna, Rev. 2:11, “Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.”

Pergamum, Rev. 2:17, “Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to the one who receives it.”

To Thyatira, Rev. 2:26-29, “To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations— that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’ – just as I have received authority from my Father. I will also give that one the morning star. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

To Sardis, Rev. 3:3-6, “Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. . . . Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy. The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels. Hold it fast, and repent. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

To Philadelphia, Rev. 3:11-13, “I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

To Laodicea, Rev. 3:19-22, “Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

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The rewards that Jesus promised point to the time of the end of the age:

The Church of Philadelphia was given the promise by Jesus that they’d be kept from the hour of trial that was coming upon the whole world; The 7 churches must be representative of all the churches, those from each of the 7 types, that have existrd from the first century all the way until the time until the end, because the hour of trial that comes upon the whole world, that Jesus spoke of, is the beginning of great tribulation.

Recap: In Revelation 4:1, St John looks and sees a door: “After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.”

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. . . Rev. 4: 2-3-5, “At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.”

‘7’ is God’s number of perfect completion and can be likened to 100%. There’s only ‘one’ Holy Spirit, and God is completely holy, I’m sure God wouldn’t uphold or edify any ‘other’ spirits in front Himself, not as a central feature in His throne room while He sits on His throne. Therefore the Holy Spirit, must be ‘seven fold’ in its ‘oneness’ since He is called the seven spirits of God. This is my opinion, but it’s strongly backed by the fact that Jesus Christ as the Lamb of God, had 7 horns on his head when St. John saw Him standing in God’s throne room: That represents 100% of might so Jesus Christ is almighty; And, there’s also the amazing fact that Father God designed the entire time scheme of the universe according to units of ‘7’. And the Holy Spirit can be represented as 7 fold in more than one way; For example, the seven eyes of the head of the Lamb of God in Rev. 5:6 were described as being ‘the seven spirits of God.’ That indicates that Jesus Christ is omniscient. (Sometimes the Holy Spirit is reckoned differently, such as in the way He’s distributed Himself as earnests among all the individual saints. And I’m not very sure if the following is of the Holy Spirit, but the 4 chariots described in Zechariah 6 are said to be ‘4 spirits of God’; Perhaps those are the spirits of the four living creatures who are closest to God’s throne.) I deduce that all the saints who’ve received the Holy Spirit, must fit best into one of the seven ‘church types’. And that’s true whether or not they’re a part of a traditional church congregation, because it must be the particular challenges, strengths and weaknesses of the members of those churches that differentiate the type. For example, if a believer’s’ most difficult challenge is overcoming sexual immorality they are of the church of Thyatira. Etc. . . .

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. . . turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lamp stands, and among the lamp stands was someone like a son of man . . . . Rev. 1: 12-13

Our precedent was the Earthly Temple of God: Did the flames of God’s heavenly menorah go out whenever the flames of the menorah in the earthly temple went out?

I’m not implying that that’d mean the Holy Spirit would ever cease to exist!

What I’m suggesting only regards the menorah and/or the 7 lamp stands as being a beautiful device that serves like a barometer, indicating to all who enter there room, what the condition of the relationship with God’s betrothed is, as she’s still on Earth. For example: When Father God’s Old Covenant wife wasn’t in good standing, such as when the priesthood was causing the Holy Spirit to grieve and God’s covenant people were sinning badly, the flames would grow dim.

That happened after the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The Sanhedrin, Pharisees and the Jews of the nation as a whole, were held responsible for it by God Almighty. So after that, the flames of their menorah went out continuously for 40 yrs, until God destroyed the 2nd temple.

What I just described was recorded by the Jews in their Talmud: “The flames continuously blew out for 40 years, and also the temple doors kept flying open and the red cord never again turned white.“

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After the 2nd Temple was Destroyed: There was an Enormous Change:

A New Nation of Priests to God had Taken its Stand: The True Church of Jesus Christ.

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Christ’s 7 Fold Church

The church is represented by the 7 lamps in God’s throne room. It’s not a menorah but it’s like a menorah whose flames or absence thereof stand for the strength of their relationship with God – each type of church – as it varies over time. As mentioned above, each type has different challenges that they need to overcome. Individuals of: Ephesus must regain their first love, Smyrna will need to endure 10 days of suffering and possible martyrdom, Pergamon must cease to sell the gifts that the Holy Spirit gave them, Thyatira must cease their physical and spiritual prostitution, Sardis must stop being dead, Philadelphia saints must only hold on to their crowns, and Laodicia must stop being so comfortable in this world.

Individual saints are the living stones of God’s living temple, so there’s no longer any need keep a physical flame burning continuously on a physical menorah in a masonry temple. The saints themselves are the light of the world. Every saint drinks of the same Holy Spirit, who indwells each saint. The Holy Spirit and the WORD is what holds the living temple together making it possible for spiritual light to shine. The physical light on the lamp stands in God’s throne room can be likened to the words of truth, which make up the spiritual light that shines forth from believers who speak them.

Something very significant happened after the Lamb of God took the scroll from His Father’s hand, but before He broke the first seal. The 24 elders sang “You have made them (not us) to be a kingdom of priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” Notice that it’s in the past tense ‘you have made’. So Jesus had already ‘made’ His kingdom of priests. They’re ready, but that doesn’t necessarily mean His kingdom of priests had yet been transported to heaven before the 24 elders sang their song. The 24 elders would’ve known that Jesus’ Kingdom is ‘ready’ just by observing the quality of the blazes on the 7 torches standing before the Worthy Lamb. If the bride of Christ had already been transported to heaven, wouldn’t they have literally been seen standing there by St John? St John saw the tribulation saints standing before the throne of God at the sixth seal.

Finally, Jesus Christ will Rule the World as King Over All Nations.

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He’ll rule His Millennial Kingdom with an iron rod to fulfill God’s promises to Abraham. And, He’ll defeat all remaining dark powers and authorities before returning the universe to God His/Our Father.

Differing interpretations of the neglected Isaiah 24 chapter:

My interpretation is that, 1,000 yrs before the events of Isaiah 24, after the greatest tribulation/The Time of Jacobs’ Trouble has been brought to His victorious conclusion, Jesus Christ will, with great power, rapidly and supernaturally, repair and revive this Earth, eliminating nuclear radiation and toxic waste, etc.; Then He will rule the Kingdom that God that promised to Abraham’s descendants, including all those of the spiritual seed of faith in Jesus Christ who will rule beside Him. In that way God delays His final destruction of this Earth until all His promises to Abraham have been fulfilled.

And only then will God the Father create the New Heavens and New Earth.

A response to the interpretation that He will destroy Earth before the Millennial Kingdom:

It doesn’t make sense for the promises God made to Abraham not to be fulfilled on this same Earth.

Part of the Glory of Jesus Christ is that He has the power and will to make this corrupt fallen world into a just world via an iron rod, before He annihilates it. We know there will be one brief final rebellion at the end of Jesus Christ’s Millennial Kingdom, just before His Great White Throne Judgment. But in contrast to the Time of Jacob’s Trouble, there will be no real tribulation since the rebellion will be instantly and completely put down. And there will be no more second chances.

Regarding the Consummation of this Present Era

God said He’ll cut his wrath short for His elect, otherwise there’d be no more flesh. By comparison, Isaiah 24 seems to be much more intensely dramatic; In time it’s horrifically condensed, as if God finally gets to spend that very last part of His wrath, the part He held back for the sake of the last remaining elect prior to the Millennium. You might very rightly ask: Doesn’t Matt. 24 say there will be no greater tribulation? There’s a big difference between going through prolonged tribulation, which includes amplified temptations and very real heart wrenching soul choices- the entire future hanging in the balance – as long as salvation is still possible, and simply being annihilated spectacularly and quickly.

There will be no cutting short and no holding back by God then. Those who belong to Christ, having already received their glorified bodies, will not be hurt by it. The final uprising against Jerusalem will be put down very very quickly. It’s the final Gog Magog rebellion and it will be brief. Satan will finally be thrown into the eternal lake of fire where the beast and false prophet will have already been for a 1,000 years.

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The New Jerusalem in Heaven

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Psalm 24:7-9

Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

The Millennial Kingdom of Jesus Christ

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Doubting Thomas of John 20:24-29

^.” A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” ^. Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” ^. Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” ^. Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

 

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