Talking about the timeline, whether we’re in the 7 year countdown or are just about to be, how can we be ready for God’s harvests of our spirits/souls?
7.1 See the Glory of God, Beyond the Veil
If you believe that the entire body of Christ will have to witness the abomination of desolation before saints are rescued – then the following is for you:
Many people have been led astray, especially those who believe, as I used to, that the body of Christ must witness the abomination of desolation before the coming of our loving Lord and Savior to gather us to Himself in the clouds, our blessed hope.
This is a short but difficult post to grasp. Click to skip to:
8. Dividing God’s Land
https://alephtav.blog/2024/08/25/8-false-peace/
I don’t know how Bible teachers can teach that Jesus Christ is coming to gather His church before the man of lawlessness is revealed (which turns out to be true) when 2 Thess. 2:1, the most prominent passage on the issue, is almost always mistranslated to say the opposite!
7.2 Glory God Beyond
Two examples of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 Mis-translations:
2 Thess. 2: 1-4 NASB, 1 Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, regarding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to him, 2that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit, or a message, or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3No one is to deceive you in any way! For it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.
2 Thess. 2: 1-4 NIV, 1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him, 2we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
7.3 Glory God Beyond
As you can see, these mis-translations seem to say that Jesus Christ won’t gather His beloved until the rebellion fully occurs and the antichrist is revealed. That’s not true! I’ll focus on the antichrist being revealed first, tackling the rebellion issue at the end of this post; there’s always been rebellion in the Church.
Not only do the wrong translations say that the gathering of the true church won’t be until the man of lawlessness is revealed, it also implies that the man-of-lawlessness won’t be considered ‘revealed,’ until he sets himself up in God’s Temple! That’d cut deeply into Daniel’s 70th Week!
7.4 Glory God Beyond
I hope all teachers/pastors/and believers who got the pre-tribulation rapture right were using the King James Version, which scored a bullseye on 2 Thess. 2:1 translation (see below)! But, if that were really the case, I don’t see how there wouldn’t have been a single person, since I became a serious believer, to show me the clear KJV verse that underlies their blessed hope. Maybe someone eventually would have. . . but I didn’t wait.
When I was a newbie in Christ, bringing up this verse in study group, got me a response that looked something like this! But, I don’t want anybody to be overly put off by this early experience of mine; Since then I’ve found serious, capable brethren online who understand and gracefully handle this topic, such as Soothkeep. see below.
7.5 Glory God Beyond
I came to realize that church members often don’t know why they believe what they believe about our being gathered by our Lord and Savior. They don’t even know about the very insidious mis-translation, and seem to be merely going by ‘wishful thinking gone viral.’ They got the existence of a pre-tribulation rapture ‘rightish’ by accident! God bless them! But that’s not really a firm foundation; Also their fear and anger is very destructive toward those who really want to understand. Those are often the same people who ignore the huge, uncountable number of saints harvested at the sixth seal or the ones who refuse to watch for the soon coming of our Lord, even as the signs converge upon us and Jesus is at the Door!
Proof
The rest of this post is to show the correct translation and why it’s correct. I hope it’ll help a brother or sister. This is a gift: I don’t get anything in return from other believers, but Jesus Christ gave me His approval. I did this for my own understanding and to please our Lord King Jesus. Here’s a thorough proof regarding the mis-translation with links, not just videos but meticulous documentation. . . .
7.6 Glory God Beyond
Mis-translation of the Greek Preposition ‘huper‘
Correct translations of ‘huper’: by, on account of, on behalf of, for, for the sake of. Those are the normal, ordinary, common uses. In contrast, translating ‘huper’ as: concerning, about, with regard to, with respect to, or regarding, is sadly wrong.
Those mis-translations of ‘huper’ make it appear that Day of the Lord is the same thing as the time, when Jesus Christ will approaches the earth briefly to gather/harvest/rapture His beloved church/bride, before His wrath begins (the Day of the Lord).
After reading the correct translations below, go back to the passages in the yellow boxes above, and look again at how they twisted it; it’s insidiously subtle.
7.7 Glory God Beyond
Now we can read it twice with the correctly translated verse:
. . . an example with a (rare) correct translation of the Greek preposition ‘huper’ (the original KJV also got it right):
2 Thess. 2: 1-4 BLB, 1 Now we implore you, brothers, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together unto Him, 2not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. 4He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
7.8 Glory God Beyond
2 Thess. 2: 1-4 KJV, 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
St. Paul and his brethren are correctly imploring the Church of Thessalonica to take comfort by the knowledge that the Day of the Lord (the Lord’s wrath) will not happen until after the event of ‘the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ to gather us to Him,’ which is our blessed hope. The actual concern of the people in the first century was that the Day of the Lords Wrath had already begun, that they were going to suffer God’s wrath.
7.9 Glory God Beyond
Here’s the excellent video by Lee W. Brainard that proved the ‘huper’ mis-translation to me. I verified every point with Koine Greek lexicons.
https://soothkeep.info/2-thess-21-3-powerful-proof-of-the-pretrib-rapture-translation/
I meticulously checked on every single reference that mentioned in the ‘soothkeep’ video above. Here they are:
Old English ‘departure’ passages
https://alephtav.blog/2-thessalonians-23-old-bibles/
The above shows the 2 Thess. 2: 1-3 verses in the following Bibles: WC Wycliff 1388, Tyndale 1522, Coverdale Bible 1535, Thomas Matthew’s Bible 1537, the Great Bible 1539, The Geneva Bible 1560 and the Bishop’s Bible 1568.
7.10 Glory God Beyond
My written ‘huper’ study notes:
https://alephtav.blog/sk-handwritten-notes/
Apostasy the other error . . .
2 Thess 2:3 contains a second potentially misunderstood word: ‘apostasy.’ In most pre-1611 Bibles it was translated as ‘departure.’
After 1611 AD, the ‘apostasia’ came to be understood as (spiritual) ‘falling away.’
7.11 Glory God Beyond
The Greek word ‘apostasia’ can mean a spiritual departure and it can also mean a physical departure! The spiritually departed are the left behind and the mature church or bride will depart as she’s harvested by Jesus Christ!
It can be that the church splits as the bride separates herself from worldliness, and the worldly church:
2 Corinthians 11: 2-4, I (Paul) am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. But I’m afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
“you put up with it easily enough“
A different Jesus? Church members putting up with a different Jesus! That’s like not bothering to discern if the person who’s just got in bed with you is your spouse! Do you think Jesus will lift up anyone who does that? This must be the other group, those who’ve divorced the true Jesus.
It Can be Seen as Two Divorces!
The wore ‘apostasy’ has been most consistently translated as ‘divorce,’ which becomes clear if one researches it deeply enough; When the ‘worldly church’ divorces the true Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ’s bride, the true church, also divorces the ‘worldly church.’ He takes His bride up while the ‘worldly church’ goes down with the world. Another way to look at it is that the bride and the rest of the church divorce each other.
So, I’d been thinking about these things, when I discovered the below C.J. Lovik video:
Although, at the time he made this video, he hadn’t yet come to understand the huper mis-translation that I proved in this post, he’s a very serious Bible expositor who I give credit to for seemingly being the first person to understand God’s four final Great Jubilee Cycles (see post 4 ), and I thank Jesus Christ for him.
The way he understands the 1 Thess. 2-3 verses is: The revealing of the antichrist immediately follows the tipping point of the splitting of the church including the departure of His bride; And, that the Day of the Lord begins immediately after that. Somehow the Holy Spirit has shown him another way to get around the huge ‘huper’ mis-translation stumbling block, and still find a way to differentiate between the day Jesus Christ comes to gather His bride and the Day of the Lord which is Jesus Christ’s wrath!
I’m linking his long video, because at the end of it, he introduced his version of the idea of a double apostasy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EYZk3dSUg8&t=1174s NOTE: I respectfully disagree with him that the first day of Daniel’s 70th week, the gathering of Christ’s bride and the Time of Jacob’s Trouble and the Day of the Lord all necessarily start on the same day.
Being indwelled by the Holy Spirit doesn’t mean Bible expositors don’t have to go through the long, intense, struggle of putting together the prophetic puzzle pieces that are contained in scripture, as well as those revealed in other ways, such as mentioned in Daniel 12:4 regarding the last days. There’s trial and error involved on our part. That’s a big part of the glory of God! It pleases Him to watch us hunt for the treasures that He hid in scripture, and when we come to the end of ourselves, He gives us clues. How else could we truly appreciate the value of it when we have a breakthrough?
Proverbs 25:2, It is the glory of God to conceal a matter and the glory of kings to search it out.
7.12 See the Glory of God, Beyond the Veil
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8. Dividing God’s Land
https://alephtav.blog/2024/08/25/8-falsepeace/
Blessings and Stay Awake!
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